Carly Fiorina takes on Donald Trump in second GOP debate

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SIMI VALLEY, California — Carly Fiorina fought her way onto CNN’s prime-time debate stage. And once she was there, she didn’t let up.

The former Hewlett-Packard chief executive brazenly confronted Donald Trump on the debate stage Wednesday night, putting the front-runner in the rare position of being on defense.

She was stern when asked about Trump’s recent assessment of her appearance, when he told Rolling Stone: “Look at that face! would anyone vote for that?”

Fiorina shot back during the debate: “I think women all over this country heard very clearly what Mr. Trump said.”

The exchange left Trump in an unusual position: struggling to find the right words to respond.

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“I think she’s got a beautiful face and I think she’s a beautiful woman,” he said, declining to take the opportunity to hit back.

Trump also faced withering attacks from former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Sen. Rand Paul. The jabs marked a shift in tone for Republican candidates since the last debate in August, when many of Trump’s competitors were hesitant to directly take him on. By Wednesday, those reservations were gone, a sign of how seriously his rivals are taking Trump’s candidacy.

The debate also served as a forum for several candidates to speak passionately about Planned Parenthood and vow to defund the group in the wake of controversial and highly edited videos of organization officials discussing the sale of aborted fetal parts.

“These Planned Parenthood videos are horrifying,” said Sen. Ted Cruz, as he accused the organization of trying to “sell the body parts of unborn children for profit.”

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie responded: “Let’s ask Hillary Clinton. She believes in the systematic murder of children in the womb.”

Fiorina used even more graphic language.

“Watch these tapes. Watch a fully formed fetus on the table. Its heart beating, its legs kicking while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain,” she said.

Though Trump didn’t pack as much punch as usual, he still found moments to go on the offense. He pounced on Fiorina’s controversial tenure as head of Hewlett-Packard.

Her leadership at the firm “led to the destruction of the company,” Trump said. “She can’t run any of my companies — that I can tell you.”

Donald Trump responds at the CNN GOP debate. Photo courtesy: David S. Holloway/CNN

Donald Trump responds at the CNN GOP debate. Photo courtesy: David S. Holloway/CNN

Bush was uncharacteristically combative with Trump, seeming determined to prove that he could hold his own against the real estate mogul.

Asked to respond to Trump’s controversial remarks about Bush’s wife — “If my wife were from Mexico, I think I would have a soft spot for people from Mexico” — Bush gestured to his wife in the audience and asked for an apology.

Trump declined, adding: “No, I won’t do that because I said nothing wrong but I hear she’s a lovely woman.”

Earlier in the evening, Bush had accused Trump of buying influence.

“You got Hillary Clinton to go to your wedding,” Bush said.

“Excuse me, Jeb, I got along with Clinton, I got along with everybody,” Trump said. “Excuse me.”

Jeb cut in with a curt: “No.”

“More energy tonight — I like that,” joked Trump, who has been criticizing Bush relentlessly for lacking in charisma.

As he fended off one attack after another, Trump — well-known for his insatiable appetite for mocking his critics — seemed to lack the fire that fueled his performance at last month’s debate.

The debate came at a crucial point in the GOP primary, with tensions running high and establishment candidates struggling against their outsider counterparts.

John Kasich speaks at the CNN GOP debate. Courtesy: David S. Holloway/CNN

John Kasich speaks at the CNN GOP debate. Courtesy: David S. Holloway/CNN

At times during the debate, the candidates asked that the focus return to the issues. Ohio Governor John Kasich, said, “If I were sitting at home and watching this back and fourth, I’d be inclined to turn it off. I mean, people at home want to know, across this country, what we’re gonna do to fix this place. How we’re gonna balance the budget, how we’re gonna create more economic growth, how we’re gonna pay down the debt, what we’re gonna do to strengthen the military, we’ve just spent.”

“There’s a sophomoric quality that is entertaining about Mr. Trump,” said Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, scolding Trump for going after people’s appearance.

Trump responded: “I never attacked him on his looks and believe me there’s plenty of subject matter right there.”

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker also took an early shot at Trump. “We don’t need an apprentice in the White House — we have one right now.”

George Pataki, Rick Santorum, Bobby Jindal and Lindsey Graham at the first round of the CNN GOP debate. Courtesy: David S. Holloway/CNN

George Pataki, Rick Santorum, Bobby Jindal and Lindsey Graham at the first round of the CNN GOP debate. Courtesy: David S. Holloway/CNN

Meanwhile, at an earlier debate for the GOP field’s lower-ranking candidates, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, former New York Gov. George Pataki, South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum debated thorny political issues such as immigration.Trump has made the issue a central part of his campaign rhetoric — and national security.

When the conversation turned to the controversial issue of “birthright citizenship,” Graham said there were certain “rich Asians, rich people from the Mideast” that were “bastardizing citizenship.”

Jindal, meanwhile, defended his policy views on immigration, repeatedly asserting that he did not support amnesty.

In another heated exchange, Pataki and Santorum butted heads about a Kentucky county clerk’s refusal to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

The woman, Kim Davis, has reignited a national debate about a Supreme Court ruling earlier this year that legalized same-sex marriage across the country.

Santorum called the Supreme Court ruling “unconstitutional,” and said there is no more important right than the ability for a citizen to freely exercise his or her conscience.

But Pataki said he would have fired Davis for violating the law.

“I didn’t agree with the Supreme Court’s decision but it is the law of the land,” Pataki said.

While the four candidates traded barbs over numerous issues, there were also calls for the GOP to focus on the ultimate prize of taking back the White House.

“If it is Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders (that becomes president), they’re going to pick people we’re going to disagree with all the time,” Graham said in reference to Supreme Court nominations. “Please understand that we have to win this election.”

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The main debate has started; each candidate is taking 30 seconds to talk about him or herself. 

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Carly Fiorina asked would she “feel comfortable with Trump’s finger on the nuclear codes?”: “That’s not for me to answer.” Fiorina says that is for the voters to answer. 

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Donald Trump: “My temperament is very good and very calm.”

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Donald Trump singled out Rand Paul for his low standing in the polls and his appearance:  “I never attacked him on his look and believe me, there’s plenty of subject matter right there.” 
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Ohio Gov. John Kasich says it’s important the candidates get to the issues- and get away from all the fighting.

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Mike Huckabee says “I would certainly love to get in on this” speaking out for the first time in tonight’s debate.

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Trump speaking out on the crisis of refugees fleeing Syria says President Obama lacks courage.

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Kasich: “We work better when we are unified; nobody’s trusting Iran.”

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Kasich: “I would do everything in my power… to stop them from having a nuclear weapon.”

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Huckabee asked about his support for Kim Davis, the county clerk in Kentucky jailed for refusing to issue same-sex marriage licenses: “The courts can’t make a law; they can’t implement it or enforce it.”

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Jeb Bush: “I’m the most pro-life governor on this stage.”

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Bush responding to a comment by Trump that he’ll be haunted by a remark questioning funds for women’s health.

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Trump: “I will take care of women. I respect women.”

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Huckabee asked about his support for Kim Davis, the county clerk in Kentucky jailed for refusing to issue same-sex marriage licenses: “The courts can’t make a law; they can’t implement it or enforce it.”

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Fiorina on Trump’s comments about her face: “I think women all over the country heard very clearly what Mr. Trump said.” Trump responded: “I think she’s got a beautiful face and she’s a beautiful woman.”

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Trump on illegal immigrants: He says people wouldn’t even be talking about this if it wasn’t for him.

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Bush says he wants Trump to apologize when he suggested Bush’s views on immigration are influenced by his Mexican-born wife.

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Trump would not apologize but said he heard Bush’s wife is a lovely woman.

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Trump: “This is a country where we speak English not Spanish,” he said, after criticizing Bush for speaking Spanish on the campaign trail.

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Chris Christie: “Let’s stop playing the games; we don’t want to hear about your careers,” referring to the back and forth between Fiorina and Trump on their careers.

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The candidates are talking pot. Jeb Bush admits he smoked marijuana 40 years ago; says “sorry, Mom.”

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Fiorina: “The marijuana that kids are smoking today is not the same marijuana that Jeb Bush smoked 40 years ago.”

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Fiorina: “Drug addiction is an epidemic; it’s taking too many people. I know this from personal experience.”

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