Extra Snow Days: Calamity Day Plan Coming Up for Vote

Posted on: 4:52 pm, February 3, 2014, by

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What’s the plan when school districts run out of calamity days? Many of them already have.

Legislation that’s already passed the Ohio House Education Committee will provide Ohio schools four extra calamity days to get through the year.

Typically, Ohio schools get five calamity days and five contingency days; three of those days can be used as ‘Blizzard Bag Days‘– where kids can do projects from home.

Many districts have already used more than seven days; so the governor is supporting the plan to add four more days in this situation.

The Ohio School Board Association is in favor of the plan because it helps financially-strapped districts that can’t afford the added expense of extra days in the summer.

The House will vote on the calamity-day plan on Feb. 12; then it goes to the Senate.

Gov. Kasich could approve it by the end of February.

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37 comments

  • ziggy says:

    Why does it have to be so difficult? Just cut spring vacation short.

  • Rusty Webker says:

    A lot of schools do not have spring vacation. I hope it does not pass. the kids need to make these days up.

  • A student says:

    What kind of evil devil are you, no we should not make up the days. Do know what we students actuall do in school on those make-up days? Nothing, thats what. Do you know what it costs to keep a school district open longer in the summer along with paying kitchen staff more? Because i certainly don’t want to pay that bill. So if you’re that worried, you can offer a lot of money to keep us in school.

  • A fed-up taxpayer says:

    Here’s a thought. Maybe if teachers and other staff weren’t PAID for snow days, it wouldn’t cost extra to pay them to work the make-up days?!?! Wow, real rocket science, eh? Yeah, I thought so too.

    • informed tsxpayer says:

      Just an fyi, teachers do not get any extra money for.makinf up.days. Classified staff get paid for the days they are in session and are being deducted for the days over what us allowed. Check your facts before you blow a gasket

  • A student says:

    You obviously don’t understand how the money is spent. A- you can’t take money away from the teachers because of the union. B- Teachers aren’t paid for individual days, they’re paid a yearly salary. The money that would be extra goes into running electricity, water, ac, etc. Also some of the staff are paid daily such as the kitchen staff. And did you know that some staff such as the principles still have to go in on snow days. So yes, apparently it is rocket science for you.

    • A fed-up taxpayer says:

      You’re right. I don’t understand. I don’t understand the sense of entitlement that is allowed to exist in education. Yes, unions protect teacher rights. Could it possibly be … I mean, oh my gosh, what a concept … that unions are the problem? Oh heavens no; not in America. They are just the best. Wisen up, taxpaying citizens. We are being railroaded. It’ll take then next TEN presidents to fix it. So in the meantime, sleep tight when you think of the money you are stealing from taxpayers (because you quite obviously are NOT a student, as your alias might suggest). Pathetic.

  • A student says:

    Lol im not a student? Haha, im laughing so hard. Im a junior in high school by the way. Now calm down man/mam, no reason to get hyper. And by the way im Republican, but still Unions are here to stay. The only reason i even posted on here was to defend us students in Ohio from having to go more days. I’m guessing you’re saying that I’m not a student because i know so much. Did it ever occur to you that there are high schoolers smarter than you? It’s people like You that are what makes this country bad.

  • Josh says:

    Teach your kids something at home and there wouldn’t be a need for this stupid debate. My daughter missed 22 days last year and another 13 + the snow days this year. (2nd grade). While the school district reprimands us due to “the importance on her education to not miss school” she already scored in the 99th percentile on the Iowa test and then the 98th percentile in the advanced placement test. Because when she misses school we are able to fill that time with even better learning experiences that help her in school as well as in the real world. Stop using school as the only method to teach your children. Also most people who complain about the snow days are only doing so because they use the school as a free babysitter. They should shorten the school year and force parents to do something educational with their kids.

  • Michele says:

    Some of us have to work no matter what so when our kids go to school, it’s not babysitting. Not everyone is lucky enough to have the extra time with their children to be able to be the teacher. So if a few extra days are added to the end of the school year, it shouldn’t be that big of a deal. I wish I was still in school enjoying all these days off!

  • Concerned parent says:

    The kids need to make up the days. If everyone is so worried about what is best for our kids education then it seems obvious that missing this many days is not a good thing. I’m beginning to wonder what is in it for the unions and school boards by continuously canceling school because it’s cold out. It’s ridiculous. This is not about whats best for our kids like the higher ups claim… it’s about union contracts and money that is not there because it was spent wrong. Makes me sick.

    • Freezing out says:

      Our school does not bus our students. My husband and I leave for work before they even open the schools, so my son has to walk. Although his education is very important to me, his health is more so. Sometimes the cancelation isn’t because of unions but rather the safety of the students.

  • David says:

    To Concerned Parent,,,You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I would try to explain it to you but I have no doubt you wouldn’t understand. What makes me sick is people like you trying to feel better about yourselves and your dull, useless and probably uneducated lives by chiming in on issues where you are clueless.

  • Brad says:

    Here’s a thought, if being a teacher is such a cake walk, what stopped all of you insightful people from continuing your education and becoming one? Was it too difficult for you? I would like to see how you would do. Come in and sub for one week. We could use more people who are positive, caring, upbeat, energetic, empathetic(if you even know what this means), and organized while being creative on a daily basis while the parents ( or parent) could care less about helping their kid. Oh yeah, the schools feed “your child” breakfast, lunch, and watch them after school, mostly for free. Oh well, that’s what lazy union-loving teachers are supposed to do, all without thanks. My pleasure! I’ll keep this in mind the next time I’m riffed (another big word for you).

  • Jan says:

    Pretty sure you idiot parents would be the first ones to sue the district if your child was injured (or god forbid killed) in a bus accident on treacherous roads or if your driving teen crashed their car on their way to school on snowy roads. This has NOTHING to do with unions, contracts or money! It’s a shame that there are many educators who seem to care more about their students than their own parents do. Let’s just say it- it’s costing you daycare when your kids aren’t in school! After all, isn’t that what school is to you – free day daycare?

  • Concerned parent says:

    To all of you miserable people (teachers ?) You all sound very bitter and are way off. Have never used daycare, why would the school feed my kids lunch or breakfast. You r really grasping for insults. Seems about right for what we get from the public school system these days. Based on your assumptions maybe I should actually feel bad for you and where you work? I know life is rough doing the bare minimum and going through the motions and complaining. Are u mad u may have to make up the days for free. Pathetic. I don’t even know why I’m bothering to respond… its almost funny.

  • David says:

    I think Brad and Jan have said it all. it is amazing the number of people that think they know.

  • Brad says:

    Hey concerned parent, you are right. I am bitter. How much time per week do you spend helping young people that aren’t your children? That’s what I thought. By the way, there is something called free and reduced lunch AND nearly all schools offer some form of Breakfast for kids who come to school with nothing. Investigate this. I too wonder why I’m responding. It’s not almost funny.. It’s hilarious.

    • Parent says:

      Brad, I am not sure where you work or why you are so hateful of parents. I do know there are parents who fit the stereotype you are describing, but there are many others who do not. I assume you are a teacher, I am not. I am a nurse which is also a sometimes thankless industry, so I can sort of understand your hurt feelings. What I don’t understand is if you hate what you do so much you need to publicly voice hate for parents, why do you do it? The question that is being posed is should the kids make up the days and how is it going to be paid for. While I am a proponent of making up the days, I completely understand there is no money to pay for it. It doesn’t really matter if you don’t like parents and think we use school as “daycare”. That last statement is probably the most offensive since we do pay taxes for schools whether we have kids or not. Those taxes pay teachers salaries, so I would think you could be more respectful. Whether I or you feel money is mismanaged does not matter. What is the best solution for this unusually bad winter. I think given the cost of making up the days it would be better to try to avoid that situation.

      I hope you find something to do in your life that brings you joy, because right now you seem to be spreading hate. That is not ok for someone who claims to care for children. I always tell my kids you get back what you put out in the world and right now you are putting out a lot of negative energy.

  • Brad says:

    P.S. I too feel that these extra weather days should not be forgiven. Schools should make up these days. It’s hard enough educating your child with losing days while watching out daily for drug abuse, child abuse, harassment, bullying, hazing, sexual abuse, gang activity, violence, emotional distress, learning disorders, behavioral disorders, allergies, and whether your children have taken their meds or not.

  • Teacher says:

    Wow! I spent 6 years in college getting a graduate degree in education, and a finance degree and now teach. Listening to some of these comments, you would think anyone could be a teacher. I worked for 6 years in finance prior to becoming a teacher; no comparison in workload, teaching is much more work and stress than any of you making these ignorant comments could ever understand.

  • Jan says:

    Sadly, Concerned Parent’s feelings are all too typical! Because your child doesn’t use school programs for meals, guess you don’t need to worry about it! Well, teachers are responsible for the big picture. As for free days for teachers, here are the facts. Teachers are contracted for 180 days per year. The pay we receive for those days is spread over 52 weeks. Any scheduled days off are not included in those 180 days
    (i.e. Christmas, spring and summer breaks). Those days are unpaid. The only freebies we get are those first five calamity days. In your world that’s like 5 paid vacation days per year that you have no choice in scheduling. I don’t want your sympathy! I love watching children succeed, and I am not miserable. I chose this career and will see it through because I can’t imagine doing anything else. I am just so sick of people feeling they have a right to bash what they obviously know far less about than they think. In this world there are jobs and then there are jobs that really matter and make a difference. Which one do you have?

  • Brad says:

    Well said “teacher”! People don’t realize the time and dedication this profession takes. It’s easy for people to bash schools and teachers. What does the union have to do with this? Obviously people continue to be misinformed.

  • Jennifer Lynn says:

    Everyone relax a bit and stop taking cheap shots at each other please. We all have our reasons why and why not those extra days should be made up. I think rather than argue, why not look for a solution? Begin school earlier and add in extra days in case is what I think. At the end of the year, if there are extra, so what? I am proud to say I AM A TEACHER. I am highly educated and love my job! Please don’t disrespect my career as you have no idea of what I do on a daily basis. “Walk a mile in my shoes before you open your mouth to judge me.” That’s how I feel and that’s the respect I give to you as a parent and when trying to understand your parenting. Also, just a thought, but just wanted to point out what many are unaware of… On calamity days as well as unpaid time off (holiday breaks, summer) teachers do work! I have spents hours up at school and at home preparing, researching, and planning, and I am not alone. I went up to school and worked on several calamity days and spent the others at home working. It is a fact that we do work hard. I am offended when you bad mouth my profession as a whole when you have no real facts to base it on. Please educate yourself before you open your mouth to state your opinion. Otherwise, you look silly and ignorant.

  • Brad says:

    Well said jan!

  • Tom S. says:

    Shouldn’t you all be at school teaching right now or spending time on all the extras you just claimed you do? Wait maybe there is another snow day. Is the sun to bright? You know I am a retired teacher and all of you running your mouths are a poor example of some of the really good ones that are still out there. You are the ones judging and generalizing. It goes both ways. You have people saying they want their kids to get the time in at school. Not a bad thing!

  • Tom S. says:

    Thankfully we have private schooling as an option. After reading through this pointless nonsense it reminds me why public schools have such a poor image. Look at who is representing it these days.

    • Jennifer Lynn says:

      Again, cheap shots. You make assumptions that everyone posting are public school employees and are terrible teachers wanting days off. I feel like the whole point is missed about this being about the safety of children, not about teachers getting a “free day” off. Having been both a private and public school teacher as well as the product of both private and public schools, I can say… there is no difference. Also, if school were in session and I was concerned about my traveling safety, could I not take one of my sick days off as MANY in the private sector do. There were so many people who took off those days because they deemed it too dangerous to go to work yet they have the nerve to complain that teachers ridiculous for getting a day off. Not that I would as I have reached the limit and actually lose those paid days now since I don’t use them. You must understand, almost every teacher is also like me and don’t even use our “sick” time and instead just lose those accumulated days. I know of no one in the private sector who just lets days go unused as many of us do.
      I would presume that being a retired teacher you would know better than say we actually have the day off. “Effective” teachers utilize that extra “time off” to actually work from home. Also, you would know that any day missed is yet another day we don’t get to work with the kids to prepare them for that lovely standardized test that we want the kids to do their best on. I want to be in school and I get pretty insulted that you assume that I’m taking another day off and I have any choice in the matter. You know that teachers DO NOT call schools off! Complain to superintendents. Don’t fault teachers nor make an asinine generalization that private schools are better than public schools. I’ve been to both and worked in both. Every school is different and I have noticed that the one true factor that makes schools great is the community and the level of involvement of the parents.
      In regards to your comment that shouldn’t we be in school teaching instead of posting… My response is, shouldn’t we every citizen educate themselves by reading news like a responsible member of society? I was reading this BEFORE school started. Duh. When school is in session, I am spending 100% of my time with students. Your comment was silly. Also, you used the wrong “to.” I know I just opened myself up to criticism of my writing but I just couldn’t help being a teacher and making myself smile :)
      Have a wonderful weekend and smile, life is just too short.

      • Eric says:

        I’ve had a 20-year career in the private sector and it’s definitely the norm that most sick time is NOT used. You’re off-base on that one Jennifer. If you’re a teacher, I wouldn’t go complaining about there being a lack of days off!

  • Mike says:

    Tom, I don’t think teachers would come across so bitter if every article ever published online didn’t immediately lead to people bashing the profession and immediately arguing the “union” B.S. Honestly, I’m kind of doubting you really were a teacher, but that’s beside the point I guess. I’m not sure what you are arguing. Teachers should not be insulted when people bash their profession?

  • yaya says:

    I have been teaching for over twenty years and am proud of my profession. It seems every year teachers get less and less respect from all corners. There are a lot of teachers that truly care about their students. There are people who seem to think teachers choose the career for all of the “perks”. As someone mentioned earlier, I spend a lot of time outside of the school day/week doing work. A lot of my assignments are completed online so that I can access them from home when I don’t have enough time to complete the work during the school day. I, and many of my colleagues, are at work 1/2 hour or more before we “have” to be to get things prepared for the day. This is called dedication and is shown by those who truly care about their job.

    I wish we hadn’t had so many calamity days this year, but I will take them over worrying about whether my students will all make it safely to school. There have been days when I didn’t want to be driving on the roads and I certainly didn’t want teenagers, who think they are indestructible, out there. I only have to drive 10 minutes to get to work on a relatively straight, flat road. Many of my students drive 20-30 minutes on roads that are hilly, curvy and blown over with snow a lot of the time. Then there is the wind chill factor, where many of the students live in the country and have to stand out in that for longer than is recommended to avoid frostbite. I say prayers before, during and after my drive to school that all the students make it safely.

    As teachers, we are expected to cover certain material during the course of the school year and calamity days do make things more difficult, but we will do what needs to be done. I will make up any time that is needed and won’t complain. I’m paid for a certain number of days and will fulfill my contract gladly because I love my job. Even if we are given the extra calamity days, that doesn’t mean schools won’t have any days to make up. My school has already used seven days and winter has a long way to go. We do live in Ohio, you know.

    I am saddened by a lot of the comments made here. It does show lack of knowledge about some things. I agree with Jennifer Lynn’s quote “Walk a mile in my shoes”. Most people don’t know nor do they appreciate what we teachers deal with on a daily basis. I would love someone to try and teach (on average) 100 students a day, whose abilities range from 4th grade level on up, concepts to prepare them for college and the work world. I teach high school and yes I have students who are at the 4th grade level. It’s a lot harder than it sounds. LOL We do the best we can with what we have/are given.

    And by the way, teachers are taxpayers too!

  • Jacki says:

    What really sickens me is nobody here that has posted is beter than the other

  • Jacki says:

    What really sickens me is nobody here that has posted is beter than the other. You stooped to each others levels to post this nonsencicle sruff.

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